why are there colors animals trees grass metal computers cups cameras paper cd's markers bills games knives clothes blankets shelves printers flopies cats internet sound mass mice buttons people energy wood hinges plastic and why do chineese people look alike... and indians...mexicans...mongolians...japone... russians... why is the anything anyways
Why is the grass green the sky blue the sun yellow the ocean blue ummmm the leaves green wood brown?
Because of matter. Matter is what everything is composed of. There are colors because of the spectrum of light. People have worked to make their lives easier, that is why there is technology. There are different races because of evolution, and people evolved to fit their climates.
I am not saying that all of this wasn't caused by a god of some sort.
the point is, no one really know.
Look through Wikipedia.org
Reply:thank you very much but i just asked that because i was bored and wanted to do something pointless. Thank you anyway. Report It
Reply:God made them that way and I think they're perfect.
Reply:things are a certain color because of how light reflects off of them
Reply:Becasue that is the way God made it. Isn't the universe beautiful with all it's color and diversity!?
Reply:Because that is what God wanted.
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Monday, November 16, 2009
Who's fault is it?
It was my ancestors fault.
Slavery, it was the white man keeping me down. Guess what, I have never owned slaves. So stfu If you want to talk about oppression see my ancestors from Ireland. Should they get some reparations?
How about the polish and the shite they endured? What about the native americans and small pox in the blankets(which incidentally was perpetrated by the Brits)? Also It had a negligible effect on Indians.
In conclusion oh boo who. Who am I going to blame?
Who's fault is it?
Do you know what reparations are? Reparations are payments for work you or your family did without payment. For example, all the companies that used Jews as free labor in WW2 had to pay the families. This is because they did work for them, but never received payment. The idea is that we also used African Americans as slaves but never paid them. This is a unique situation to what other oppressed groups in the US have endured.
And although many groups have received very unfair treatment in the past, I don't think you can compare the way the Irish were treated to the way Africans were treated.
Reply:a reperation isn't always money- it can be a formal apology.
jews received one.
I'm not sure if african americans have received a national one- some states have given one
Slavery, it was the white man keeping me down. Guess what, I have never owned slaves. So stfu If you want to talk about oppression see my ancestors from Ireland. Should they get some reparations?
How about the polish and the shite they endured? What about the native americans and small pox in the blankets(which incidentally was perpetrated by the Brits)? Also It had a negligible effect on Indians.
In conclusion oh boo who. Who am I going to blame?
Who's fault is it?
Do you know what reparations are? Reparations are payments for work you or your family did without payment. For example, all the companies that used Jews as free labor in WW2 had to pay the families. This is because they did work for them, but never received payment. The idea is that we also used African Americans as slaves but never paid them. This is a unique situation to what other oppressed groups in the US have endured.
And although many groups have received very unfair treatment in the past, I don't think you can compare the way the Irish were treated to the way Africans were treated.
Reply:a reperation isn't always money- it can be a formal apology.
jews received one.
I'm not sure if african americans have received a national one- some states have given one
Why is the Truth Not Taught in School What was Done to The Native Americans???
Why when you say it a white "culture" teaching, there is little or "NO" truth taught in the schools about the Native Americans. Not once in you history class will you hear, well the "Indians" had a right to be angry at the settlers, because they were forcing them off lands that had been their home for thousands of years. You will not hear how the "Indians" were lied to, tricked (easy to do because our Peoples lived by honor and respect), murdered, put bounty on, sold or traded blankets infected on purpose with disease, whiskey that cloud the mind and make sick lives, the women raped, treated as dirt and less, sold as slaves, beaten, and abuse in so many ways. No you will not be taught the "truth" of the "settling" of these lands, or the "taming" of the savage "heathens" who were "godless". No you will not be taught the truth that our Peoples were far more civilized, and advanced, socially, morally, medically, and spiritually because then they have to admit it was a genocide far worse than anything "Hitler" and the "Nazi" ever did!
Why is the Truth Not Taught in School What was Done to The Native Americans???
Good question!
The answer is that racist and ethnocentric Europeans came here originally. There was no Internet back then. Books were limited. Children learned mainly from their racist parents. They became racist. They passed that on to their kids and they then passed it on..... and so on.
Racism and Ethnocentrism towards Native people has become so engrained in American Society that people don't even notice it!
Example? Washington Redskins. The capital of the United States has a football team with a RACIST team name! People openly support that because discrimination and racism towards Native people has become so engrained, people won't believe it's wrong.... http://www.treatycouncil.org/section_211...
Example? Tony Cornheiser a few years ago on PTI said, Hawaiian women are a dime a dozen." What if he had said black women are a dime a dozen? He'd be fired like Don Imus and Rush Limbaugh. He made the comments towards Native women so nobody said anything about, except me in some emails which were ignored. Racism towards Native people is so engrained in American society that people didn't see anything wrong with it. They were raised that way.
Also, to acknowledge what the United States did to the Native people would be to say that the US was based on evil. "Proud Americans" don't want to do that. They don't want to be "anti-American" so they don't dig into the attrocities or when they do, they sugar-coat it.
Example? My son brought home a Weekly Reader that actually celebrated Columbus! For those of you that are thinking, "so what." You have had that racism so engrained in you that YOU don't realize how wrong that is. Columbus was a rapist, murderer, slave trader and more.... To make little Native children celebrate that man is the same as making little Jewish children celebrate Hitler! It is so WRONG! That Weekly Reader sugar-coated that evil by saying Columbus did some bad things but he also did so many good things.... WRONG! http://www.transformcolumbusday.com/
Nobody said much about that Weekly Reader because that racism towards Native people is so engrained in American society....
So now you have teachers that just regurgitate the same stuff that they have had handed down to them from their parents and teachers all the way back from the guys who actually committed the attrocities.
Sure, there are some enlightened teachers that teach some of the truths, but many of the topics are controversial so they don't dwell too much or give the topic the time it deserves.
Example? How does a teacher teach a bunch of Christian children that the Reverend Colonel Chivington murdered women and children in the name of God? "Nits make lice."
I think it's getting better but until people open their eyes and question what they were taught, it will be a long road my friend.
Check out this cool Youtube video that attempts to open eyes about Native Mascots....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Rp4lRn9x...
Check out this Youtube video that teaches about the strength and beauty of Native women....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXgCwVF8r...
Reply:I agree, it needs to be taught.
Reply:I would like to add from what I have been taught that the French were the ones who introduced scalping not Native Americans. They do not teach that in American History classes either, or what the Trail of Tears was all about concerning the Cherokee.
Reply:Unfortunately, our world is forever changing. People fight for their place in it. Some win and sadly some must lose. I am one of the "white" people. My wife is part Creek and Cherokee and therefore so are my kids. I have always found early American history fascinating and was taught in school about the differences between the societies. I was not taught that the settlers were all good moral people. I was taught that the colonists did take advantage of the fact that the Indians didn't live by land ownership. None of this is simply good vs bad. It was two totally different societies colliding with tragic results for the Indians. As for history being written, I am from the south and fully understand that the whole truth is not told. The Civil War was fought for economical reasons. Obviously I don't believe in slavery, but do believe it was an afterthought for war propaganda. I believe people are victorious and people are conquered. The question is not whether it was fair but can we all get along as Americans now. I certainly hope so.
Reply:I was taught some of those things in school... but what would you suggest I read to learn more?
Reply:Sadly, it's a "white man's world" %26amp; it will b as long as those crooked politicans r running it. I know, it's BULLSHIT
Reply:denial my friend, just denial. is like if a vicious convicted killer would say "yes, i did it", who wants to admit shame on itself. that is why my heart also goes to mexico.
Reply:who wants to admit they commited cultural genocide apon the very people who welcomed them to their land . I think its a guilt complex
Reply:WOW
and
THANK YOU for seeing it too.
The United States Government has never wanted we the people to know the great injustice that was done to our people and of and any people that were brought into this country against their will. The motto of this land when Europeans stepped foot on this land to make a better life for themselves,and because they didn't know or understand the ways of our people they destroyed the land and tried to killed off the native people of the land,so they could have it all to themselves.
That's how I feel
Reply:some of it but not all of it....i see what youre saying
complain to the school board thats all you can do
Reply:I don't know, it should be. I believe that truth should always be taught. I didn't know anything about the Indians treatment by the white man until I dated an Indian man about 18 years ago. All I had ever known was what the westerns showed. I think the Native Americans should get a bigger, stronger lobby. God bless you.
Reply:because unfortunately natives weren't then nor are we now considered people.still today we are denied many rights taken for granted by everyone else.still does white society try and impose this sorry way of living called "civilization" on native peoples.i say sorry way of living because i don't,cant see what is so civilized in it.what and where is the civility in lying,cheating,stealing as well as attempted genocide?
a good book to read is "custer died for your sins:an indian manifesto written by vine deloria. warning not for those who cant handle the truth or at least a truer look at white society.
Reply:i dont know but something needs to be done about it!
Reply:You are right! It is a travesty of justice. They teach about slavery and all its atrocities, but the only things that are mentioned of our people is about Squanto showing the white man corn or something! I think that people just like to play ostrich sometimes and stick their heads in the sand. If they don't know about it, then they don't have to think about it or be ashamed of it. I guess no country wants to admit to near genocide.
Reply:Aho! brother. I am tsalagi, I take it your Lakota? Please forgive me if I'm wrong. I would love to talk to you some more. It seems we have alot in common. Wado for posting this.
Reply:*Crazy Horse*.... Whoa! .... slow down, take a deep breath and listen VERY carefully..... "The victor writes the history"!
If the Seven Tribes had won the Indian Wars in the 1800s, we'd have totally different history books.
The ironic thing is that the only Americans living on LEGALLY obtained land are those living on the island of Manhattan. Every other American is living on illegally occupied land that was given, in treaty after treaty, to the Native Tribes "as long as the grass shall grow and the sun shall shine."
Then they were violently subdued and displaced into the refugee camps where they still live.
But one thing the Native Tribes can be thankful for (in a strange way) is that they WERE concentrated in the refugee camps where they could pass on their heritage and, against all odds, keep their culture alive.
The Jews faced even greater odds and regained their homeland after two thousand years.
Be true to your gods and your land will be returned to you as well ..... Be strong!
Reply:Unfortunately, history is always written by the victorious - in this case, the "white man". The oppressor is never going to willing admit that they did any wrong - at least not until a long period of time has passed.
It doesn't make it right, but this is the way it HAS been - but as a society, it is our duty to learn the truth!
Our modern society is much more understanding than it ever has been - and there are a lot of us who know that we aren't being told the whole truth. History at least is willing to touch on these subjects - it is up to the individual to take it to the next step.
Part of the reason such atrocities are not taught in school is that "they" (meaning the schools) don't want to touch on such "sensitive" subjects - which is also why they never go into detail about the Holocaust either...
Reply:Actually I was taught those things in school. There are lots of innaccuracies in our history classes across the country, though (including the one you mentioned).
I think its sad when our history is changed to suit the needs of others, and I agree with your frustration.
Reply:a little angry I see. I did learn about it no matter what you think I didn't learn in school. and it was painfully obvious. those who choose to believe there is no other side are truly ignorant. the board of education and the parents control what the students get to hear. if parents don't want their kids to learn about the gruesome side of history then that is what happens. every war that we engage in has its ugly side. war and battles are never a win.
Reply:Simple, the "winners" write the history....
Reply:its because white people "settled" this land and they also ended up being the ones who wrote the history books. i read this one book about the native americans and it was US history according to them and it seemed alot more true than the white mans history book. i used to complain about this in my school days and the teachers would just ignore it or go on the white mans side.
Reply:You are wrong, it was taught in my high school school. BTW, Hitler was worse, and he would have had your people exterminated too, he only wanted arian type people to live. If you are so angry about the past why don't you become a teacher or a documentary film producer and get it out to the world?
Reply:Damn Strait! White Power!
Why is the Truth Not Taught in School What was Done to The Native Americans???
Good question!
The answer is that racist and ethnocentric Europeans came here originally. There was no Internet back then. Books were limited. Children learned mainly from their racist parents. They became racist. They passed that on to their kids and they then passed it on..... and so on.
Racism and Ethnocentrism towards Native people has become so engrained in American Society that people don't even notice it!
Example? Washington Redskins. The capital of the United States has a football team with a RACIST team name! People openly support that because discrimination and racism towards Native people has become so engrained, people won't believe it's wrong.... http://www.treatycouncil.org/section_211...
Example? Tony Cornheiser a few years ago on PTI said, Hawaiian women are a dime a dozen." What if he had said black women are a dime a dozen? He'd be fired like Don Imus and Rush Limbaugh. He made the comments towards Native women so nobody said anything about, except me in some emails which were ignored. Racism towards Native people is so engrained in American society that people didn't see anything wrong with it. They were raised that way.
Also, to acknowledge what the United States did to the Native people would be to say that the US was based on evil. "Proud Americans" don't want to do that. They don't want to be "anti-American" so they don't dig into the attrocities or when they do, they sugar-coat it.
Example? My son brought home a Weekly Reader that actually celebrated Columbus! For those of you that are thinking, "so what." You have had that racism so engrained in you that YOU don't realize how wrong that is. Columbus was a rapist, murderer, slave trader and more.... To make little Native children celebrate that man is the same as making little Jewish children celebrate Hitler! It is so WRONG! That Weekly Reader sugar-coated that evil by saying Columbus did some bad things but he also did so many good things.... WRONG! http://www.transformcolumbusday.com/
Nobody said much about that Weekly Reader because that racism towards Native people is so engrained in American society....
So now you have teachers that just regurgitate the same stuff that they have had handed down to them from their parents and teachers all the way back from the guys who actually committed the attrocities.
Sure, there are some enlightened teachers that teach some of the truths, but many of the topics are controversial so they don't dwell too much or give the topic the time it deserves.
Example? How does a teacher teach a bunch of Christian children that the Reverend Colonel Chivington murdered women and children in the name of God? "Nits make lice."
I think it's getting better but until people open their eyes and question what they were taught, it will be a long road my friend.
Check out this cool Youtube video that attempts to open eyes about Native Mascots....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Rp4lRn9x...
Check out this Youtube video that teaches about the strength and beauty of Native women....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXgCwVF8r...
Reply:I agree, it needs to be taught.
Reply:I would like to add from what I have been taught that the French were the ones who introduced scalping not Native Americans. They do not teach that in American History classes either, or what the Trail of Tears was all about concerning the Cherokee.
Reply:Unfortunately, our world is forever changing. People fight for their place in it. Some win and sadly some must lose. I am one of the "white" people. My wife is part Creek and Cherokee and therefore so are my kids. I have always found early American history fascinating and was taught in school about the differences between the societies. I was not taught that the settlers were all good moral people. I was taught that the colonists did take advantage of the fact that the Indians didn't live by land ownership. None of this is simply good vs bad. It was two totally different societies colliding with tragic results for the Indians. As for history being written, I am from the south and fully understand that the whole truth is not told. The Civil War was fought for economical reasons. Obviously I don't believe in slavery, but do believe it was an afterthought for war propaganda. I believe people are victorious and people are conquered. The question is not whether it was fair but can we all get along as Americans now. I certainly hope so.
Reply:I was taught some of those things in school... but what would you suggest I read to learn more?
Reply:Sadly, it's a "white man's world" %26amp; it will b as long as those crooked politicans r running it. I know, it's BULLSHIT
Reply:denial my friend, just denial. is like if a vicious convicted killer would say "yes, i did it", who wants to admit shame on itself. that is why my heart also goes to mexico.
Reply:who wants to admit they commited cultural genocide apon the very people who welcomed them to their land . I think its a guilt complex
Reply:WOW
and
THANK YOU for seeing it too.
The United States Government has never wanted we the people to know the great injustice that was done to our people and of and any people that were brought into this country against their will. The motto of this land when Europeans stepped foot on this land to make a better life for themselves,and because they didn't know or understand the ways of our people they destroyed the land and tried to killed off the native people of the land,so they could have it all to themselves.
That's how I feel
Reply:some of it but not all of it....i see what youre saying
complain to the school board thats all you can do
Reply:I don't know, it should be. I believe that truth should always be taught. I didn't know anything about the Indians treatment by the white man until I dated an Indian man about 18 years ago. All I had ever known was what the westerns showed. I think the Native Americans should get a bigger, stronger lobby. God bless you.
Reply:because unfortunately natives weren't then nor are we now considered people.still today we are denied many rights taken for granted by everyone else.still does white society try and impose this sorry way of living called "civilization" on native peoples.i say sorry way of living because i don't,cant see what is so civilized in it.what and where is the civility in lying,cheating,stealing as well as attempted genocide?
a good book to read is "custer died for your sins:an indian manifesto written by vine deloria. warning not for those who cant handle the truth or at least a truer look at white society.
Reply:i dont know but something needs to be done about it!
Reply:You are right! It is a travesty of justice. They teach about slavery and all its atrocities, but the only things that are mentioned of our people is about Squanto showing the white man corn or something! I think that people just like to play ostrich sometimes and stick their heads in the sand. If they don't know about it, then they don't have to think about it or be ashamed of it. I guess no country wants to admit to near genocide.
Reply:Aho! brother. I am tsalagi, I take it your Lakota? Please forgive me if I'm wrong. I would love to talk to you some more. It seems we have alot in common. Wado for posting this.
Reply:*Crazy Horse*.... Whoa! .... slow down, take a deep breath and listen VERY carefully..... "The victor writes the history"!
If the Seven Tribes had won the Indian Wars in the 1800s, we'd have totally different history books.
The ironic thing is that the only Americans living on LEGALLY obtained land are those living on the island of Manhattan. Every other American is living on illegally occupied land that was given, in treaty after treaty, to the Native Tribes "as long as the grass shall grow and the sun shall shine."
Then they were violently subdued and displaced into the refugee camps where they still live.
But one thing the Native Tribes can be thankful for (in a strange way) is that they WERE concentrated in the refugee camps where they could pass on their heritage and, against all odds, keep their culture alive.
The Jews faced even greater odds and regained their homeland after two thousand years.
Be true to your gods and your land will be returned to you as well ..... Be strong!
Reply:Unfortunately, history is always written by the victorious - in this case, the "white man". The oppressor is never going to willing admit that they did any wrong - at least not until a long period of time has passed.
It doesn't make it right, but this is the way it HAS been - but as a society, it is our duty to learn the truth!
Our modern society is much more understanding than it ever has been - and there are a lot of us who know that we aren't being told the whole truth. History at least is willing to touch on these subjects - it is up to the individual to take it to the next step.
Part of the reason such atrocities are not taught in school is that "they" (meaning the schools) don't want to touch on such "sensitive" subjects - which is also why they never go into detail about the Holocaust either...
Reply:Actually I was taught those things in school. There are lots of innaccuracies in our history classes across the country, though (including the one you mentioned).
I think its sad when our history is changed to suit the needs of others, and I agree with your frustration.
Reply:a little angry I see. I did learn about it no matter what you think I didn't learn in school. and it was painfully obvious. those who choose to believe there is no other side are truly ignorant. the board of education and the parents control what the students get to hear. if parents don't want their kids to learn about the gruesome side of history then that is what happens. every war that we engage in has its ugly side. war and battles are never a win.
Reply:Simple, the "winners" write the history....
Reply:its because white people "settled" this land and they also ended up being the ones who wrote the history books. i read this one book about the native americans and it was US history according to them and it seemed alot more true than the white mans history book. i used to complain about this in my school days and the teachers would just ignore it or go on the white mans side.
Reply:You are wrong, it was taught in my high school school. BTW, Hitler was worse, and he would have had your people exterminated too, he only wanted arian type people to live. If you are so angry about the past why don't you become a teacher or a documentary film producer and get it out to the world?
Reply:Damn Strait! White Power!
Answer me Christians, (Pagans are invited to Comment)?
Read the Following completely or don’t read anything at all: -
1.Christ was executed in 0 A.D. and in late 300 A.D. did the Roman citizens convert,(before that none of their middle class or rulers converted) This was because Constantine took the help of the Slaves and Civil servants of the lower rung who had converted because they had no political say, and after Constantine captured power he Forced all the Romans to convert or else Die.
2.People of France , and other North Eastern European countries were Nordic, Celtic etc. after the Roman Catholic Church defeated them they converted the political class by force, but the Masses did not convert, after which the Church imposed high agricultural tax on all the Non Christians and exempted those people who were Christian that is why these people were forced to convert (economical coercion).
3.People of Spain were not Christians, when defeated by Roman Catholic Church Did not see the Light so the Church used The Spanish Rack(torture device) on 100000 people and these victims were publicly tortured after which Spaniards saw the Light and Converted.
4.The Red Indians Dominated U. S. A. in the 1500 A.D. when the pilgrims came, they(red Indians) did not see light so the Church handed out Cholera Blankets which resulted in the mass Genocide of 2 million Red Indians and now they are a minority.
What I want to say from my above statements is your religion has throughout History been imposed rather than people flocking
Towards it , to prove my statements I shall say that in India many Christian missionaries are there and everybody knows that Hindus are more Docile than Cows yet Majority they have not converted , The Majority of Buddhist have not converted (they are the brother of Hindus)
Many people in African countries are converting mainly the famine stricken tribals the B.B.C channel has shown how Christian Evangelical Organizations are converting these people By offering 100 $ to each convertee,
Use simple Logic if Europe overnight saw the light and converted peacefully just by reading the Bible then the same effect it should have had in Asia all should have converted yet they haven’t
Nowadays more poor people from Africa and poor countries are thronging to convert for Economical Bribes.
Many people who are middle class and upper middle class of India(about 300 million ) are not converting on mass scale even when most of them have knowledge of the Bible . So In my opinion if Constantine would not have been there You would have been a small sect even Know because Historically it has been proven that Thousands f other people have not flocked to you religion and no Race Civilization or Culture HaD ever Invited the Church in their Society.
And Only Countries Defeated By The Church and Christians have citizens who have converted.
Answer me Christians, (Pagans are invited to Comment)?
Completely agree. If your religion is really the truth then let people find it themselves.
Reply:All those statistics do not have reputable, verifiable evidence to support them. Therefore, the point is moot.
Reply:All that, and not a single question. What did I miss?
Reply:I read your claims and they are true and well founded. Your insight has great merit, and truth to it. I only have this to add to your statements of fact. More innocent people have died in the name of Christianity than any other cause throughout history. It seems that the true message is not getting through. It's about LOVE and PEACE, not DEATH and TAXES. God never asked for money, land, wealth, riches or fanatical followers; he asked that all humankind endowed with freewill choose of their own volition to follow him. It is the madness of MEN that these things have transpired. Such will be his WRATH at the awakening. No one man,one culture, one country, or united group of countries has the ownership of Christianity, and with so many interpretations, factions, sects and denominations within religion, they are all wrong, and have fallen into the madness of fanatical religion. I'm sorry for them all, for they know not what they have done and will do in the name of religion. If one look to a religion and people that have and still walk in the light; look to the followers of BUDDHA, and the Dahlia Llama; and if Hindu's are their brothers, then some of the TRUE concepts of GOD have reach a small portion of humanity.
I will see you on the other side, after the awakening and we can talk to eternity's end on the follies of MAN; for you have opened your eyes and you have seen the truth..
Reply:I don't see a question here, only an editorial. Be nice, though, if you had your facts straight. Logic doesn't work if you have faulty facts or assumptions.
To start with, Christ was crucified around 33 AD, though the dating is iffy by 3 or 4 years either way because the Romans and Jews used different calendars and the Gregorian calendar was adopted much later.
Constantine was already a candidate for emperor before his conversion following the defeat of Maxsentius in AD 312. The subsequent state adoption of the faith may, however, have been the worst thing that every happened to the church (in my opinion). It opened to door to all kinds of corruption and abuse, including the Inquisition, forced conversions, anti-semitism, etc., none of which an honest Christian denies and is not sorry for.
It is, however, incorrect to say that the Roman Catholic Church conquered France or Spain or the British Isles. Europe was conquered by the Roman empire (Julius Caesar : "All Gaul is divided into three parts...") several decades before Christ was born. Christianity spread there, and eastward into India and north thru Greece and Macendonia into Russia rapdily during the first century, long before it became a 'legitimate' and officially sanctioned faith. Converts were made my the persuasive arguments of the gospel -- as they are today, the bribery of a scant few unscrupulous 'missionaries' aside (if you take the BBC story at face value -- I do not.)
If anything or anyone was conquered, it was the Church, as wave after wave of 'barbarians' assaulted the Empire. The Church was also 'conquered' by its accommodation and adoption of many pagan practices after Constantine.
People convert to any religion (or become atheists) for a variety of reasons. Real conversion to Christianity is based on one's reaction to Christ and the validity of His resurrection, not the historical record of those who have claimed to follow Him. (On the other hand, for everyone who has abused the name of Christ, there are a hundred or more who have lived faithfully. But they don't make many headlines because good behavior doesn't sell newspapers.) The abuses of some who SAY they are adherents of any given faith do not negate the validity of that faith any more than the abuse of driving privileges negate the value of the automobile.
I'd suggest you look at the source material -- the Bible -- and forget this revisionist horse hockey.
Reply:No problem,. mate. We don't want you in our church anyway, so no one's going to try and convert you. Please..just stay where you are and keep away from us Christians, we DON'T WANT YOU!
Reply:I agree with you; I'm pagan, and only sought Christianity at a time in my life when I was too naive to know there were alternatives. However, there is no question in this posting, so why are you here??? What are you wanting us to "answer"?
Reply:I don't know what to say but to laugh at your master the Devil
he is a failure just like you.
You better think of Jesus now that you have breath on your nose
I will say Christians has been the most peaceful on planet Earth that we stay or live on.
I will say there is still hope for you to repent.
However I mark your question Bad, because your summaries are what you and your master plan as the next target to get those who are not solid in the faith, and those who are yet to convert.
I bet you, if you don't stop, you will end like this, and the next thing is hell.
Repent and follow Jesus while you breathe yet
Reply:I am confused
Reply:Errrr.... excuse me... It seems that your pointing so much to the Roman Catholic Religion....
Technically... Roman Catholic is just a sub-category for Christianity.
So next time please point out to catholicism only...
Jed B.
Webmaster
http://www.IdealWeightNaturally.com
Reply:Likewise you could explain the current trend of conversion to Christianity in the US as social coercion.
Reply:That's just foolishness.
Reply:Coercion never converted anybody, except those who had something to gain or lose from it. Then I would question legitimacy of such conversions. The reality is that the church was spread just fine before Constantine made it the official religion of the Roman Empire. It had grown so powerful, that it was becoming a threat to his powerbase. In a matter of 300 years, Christianity had converted as much as 10% of the Roman Empire and had expanded well into India and was making its way into China without the help of conquering armies and imperial decrees.
What happened when Constantine made it the official religion, it stifled the growth of Christianity, rather than bolstering it. Christianity became a cultural norm, and with that, came all the baggage of politics and coercion that get attached to it. Almost immediately, power players latched on to the faith and saw it as a way of political gain. This same pattern is observable all through history: look at the Church of England history, Colonial America, and other theocratic states that were set up. It is also true that people have used the name of Christ to conquer others, such as the episodes you mention above and the crusades to name a few. There are many dark chapters in the history of Christianity, but that doesn't make it all bad. And I’d say this is not at all the way Christ would have tried to expand the faith, but rather using the methods missionaries like the apostle Paul used.
Now I disagree with you on the basis of modern conversions. China is a prime example. Christianity is growing there at a rate never before seen in history. After Mao attempted to eradicate religion from China, he set up what would become the one of the most spiritually hungry places on earth. Nobody is making the Chinese come to Christ through coercion, and in fact the government goes through extreme measure to stop the spread of Christianity. Even at 3%, there are 36 million Christians in China, and that was 12 years ago. The Joshua Project estimates that there are about 96,600,000 Christians in China in 2006. In 1980, there were less than 1,000,000 Christians. That means 9600% growth has happened in 26 years. One cannot simply brush that under the rug.
Also, in southern Sudan, there are people coming to the Christian faith in droves too. I think this has a lot to do with their surroundings. Sudan is war torn by different factions of politics fighting. On the other hand though, there are Christian relief organizations attempting to help the Sudanese. If the alien faith is trying to bring peace, and you want peace, then you would embrace the alien faith that brings peace. The Sudanese Christians are still persecuted and still impoverished, but their conversions aren’t a result of bribes as you propose. It may be true that there are some people who bribe people into accepting their faith, but I don't think that represents the majority or even a significant portion of conversions.
Reply:When you read English history it is full of stories of people having their heads hacked off or being burnt at the stake for either because they were catholic and there was protestant on the throne, or you were protestant and there was a catholic on the throne. (The Tudors are a classic example,The Catholic queen " Bloody" Mary really lived up to her name )But woe betide you if you said you were a non-believer in those times too. How tragic that all those people died because of mindless superstition.
Reply:First of all you don't know History, Christ was crucified in 32 AD. Secondly there is a huge difference in Catholics and those who have traditionally followed Christ. Jesus never counseled His followers to be warlike. In one instance when they asked Him if they should command fire to come down from Heaven and devour their adversaries, He responded "I came to kill and destroy but to save". Those of us in the small remnant who follow His word, do not kill. We have never done so, there was always just a remnant of true Christians and then the others like Constantine who blended many pagan traditions with a misture of the words of Christ and called themselves Christians. Don't be fooled. I honestly don't blame you all for thinking such things, but we real Christians are just a small, small group.
Reply:I do not see that you asked a question that anyone can answer. All you have done is given us a history lesson, coupled with a lesson on comparative religion. Ask a question, get an answer.
Reply:very sad history and true - and still the Christians want to condem us Pagans!
1.Christ was executed in 0 A.D. and in late 300 A.D. did the Roman citizens convert,(before that none of their middle class or rulers converted) This was because Constantine took the help of the Slaves and Civil servants of the lower rung who had converted because they had no political say, and after Constantine captured power he Forced all the Romans to convert or else Die.
2.People of France , and other North Eastern European countries were Nordic, Celtic etc. after the Roman Catholic Church defeated them they converted the political class by force, but the Masses did not convert, after which the Church imposed high agricultural tax on all the Non Christians and exempted those people who were Christian that is why these people were forced to convert (economical coercion).
3.People of Spain were not Christians, when defeated by Roman Catholic Church Did not see the Light so the Church used The Spanish Rack(torture device) on 100000 people and these victims were publicly tortured after which Spaniards saw the Light and Converted.
4.The Red Indians Dominated U. S. A. in the 1500 A.D. when the pilgrims came, they(red Indians) did not see light so the Church handed out Cholera Blankets which resulted in the mass Genocide of 2 million Red Indians and now they are a minority.
What I want to say from my above statements is your religion has throughout History been imposed rather than people flocking
Towards it , to prove my statements I shall say that in India many Christian missionaries are there and everybody knows that Hindus are more Docile than Cows yet Majority they have not converted , The Majority of Buddhist have not converted (they are the brother of Hindus)
Many people in African countries are converting mainly the famine stricken tribals the B.B.C channel has shown how Christian Evangelical Organizations are converting these people By offering 100 $ to each convertee,
Use simple Logic if Europe overnight saw the light and converted peacefully just by reading the Bible then the same effect it should have had in Asia all should have converted yet they haven’t
Nowadays more poor people from Africa and poor countries are thronging to convert for Economical Bribes.
Many people who are middle class and upper middle class of India(about 300 million ) are not converting on mass scale even when most of them have knowledge of the Bible . So In my opinion if Constantine would not have been there You would have been a small sect even Know because Historically it has been proven that Thousands f other people have not flocked to you religion and no Race Civilization or Culture HaD ever Invited the Church in their Society.
And Only Countries Defeated By The Church and Christians have citizens who have converted.
Answer me Christians, (Pagans are invited to Comment)?
Completely agree. If your religion is really the truth then let people find it themselves.
Reply:All those statistics do not have reputable, verifiable evidence to support them. Therefore, the point is moot.
Reply:All that, and not a single question. What did I miss?
Reply:I read your claims and they are true and well founded. Your insight has great merit, and truth to it. I only have this to add to your statements of fact. More innocent people have died in the name of Christianity than any other cause throughout history. It seems that the true message is not getting through. It's about LOVE and PEACE, not DEATH and TAXES. God never asked for money, land, wealth, riches or fanatical followers; he asked that all humankind endowed with freewill choose of their own volition to follow him. It is the madness of MEN that these things have transpired. Such will be his WRATH at the awakening. No one man,one culture, one country, or united group of countries has the ownership of Christianity, and with so many interpretations, factions, sects and denominations within religion, they are all wrong, and have fallen into the madness of fanatical religion. I'm sorry for them all, for they know not what they have done and will do in the name of religion. If one look to a religion and people that have and still walk in the light; look to the followers of BUDDHA, and the Dahlia Llama; and if Hindu's are their brothers, then some of the TRUE concepts of GOD have reach a small portion of humanity.
I will see you on the other side, after the awakening and we can talk to eternity's end on the follies of MAN; for you have opened your eyes and you have seen the truth..
Reply:I don't see a question here, only an editorial. Be nice, though, if you had your facts straight. Logic doesn't work if you have faulty facts or assumptions.
To start with, Christ was crucified around 33 AD, though the dating is iffy by 3 or 4 years either way because the Romans and Jews used different calendars and the Gregorian calendar was adopted much later.
Constantine was already a candidate for emperor before his conversion following the defeat of Maxsentius in AD 312. The subsequent state adoption of the faith may, however, have been the worst thing that every happened to the church (in my opinion). It opened to door to all kinds of corruption and abuse, including the Inquisition, forced conversions, anti-semitism, etc., none of which an honest Christian denies and is not sorry for.
It is, however, incorrect to say that the Roman Catholic Church conquered France or Spain or the British Isles. Europe was conquered by the Roman empire (Julius Caesar : "All Gaul is divided into three parts...") several decades before Christ was born. Christianity spread there, and eastward into India and north thru Greece and Macendonia into Russia rapdily during the first century, long before it became a 'legitimate' and officially sanctioned faith. Converts were made my the persuasive arguments of the gospel -- as they are today, the bribery of a scant few unscrupulous 'missionaries' aside (if you take the BBC story at face value -- I do not.)
If anything or anyone was conquered, it was the Church, as wave after wave of 'barbarians' assaulted the Empire. The Church was also 'conquered' by its accommodation and adoption of many pagan practices after Constantine.
People convert to any religion (or become atheists) for a variety of reasons. Real conversion to Christianity is based on one's reaction to Christ and the validity of His resurrection, not the historical record of those who have claimed to follow Him. (On the other hand, for everyone who has abused the name of Christ, there are a hundred or more who have lived faithfully. But they don't make many headlines because good behavior doesn't sell newspapers.) The abuses of some who SAY they are adherents of any given faith do not negate the validity of that faith any more than the abuse of driving privileges negate the value of the automobile.
I'd suggest you look at the source material -- the Bible -- and forget this revisionist horse hockey.
Reply:No problem,. mate. We don't want you in our church anyway, so no one's going to try and convert you. Please..just stay where you are and keep away from us Christians, we DON'T WANT YOU!
Reply:I agree with you; I'm pagan, and only sought Christianity at a time in my life when I was too naive to know there were alternatives. However, there is no question in this posting, so why are you here??? What are you wanting us to "answer"?
Reply:I don't know what to say but to laugh at your master the Devil
he is a failure just like you.
You better think of Jesus now that you have breath on your nose
I will say Christians has been the most peaceful on planet Earth that we stay or live on.
I will say there is still hope for you to repent.
However I mark your question Bad, because your summaries are what you and your master plan as the next target to get those who are not solid in the faith, and those who are yet to convert.
I bet you, if you don't stop, you will end like this, and the next thing is hell.
Repent and follow Jesus while you breathe yet
Reply:I am confused
Reply:Errrr.... excuse me... It seems that your pointing so much to the Roman Catholic Religion....
Technically... Roman Catholic is just a sub-category for Christianity.
So next time please point out to catholicism only...
Jed B.
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Reply:Likewise you could explain the current trend of conversion to Christianity in the US as social coercion.
Reply:That's just foolishness.
Reply:Coercion never converted anybody, except those who had something to gain or lose from it. Then I would question legitimacy of such conversions. The reality is that the church was spread just fine before Constantine made it the official religion of the Roman Empire. It had grown so powerful, that it was becoming a threat to his powerbase. In a matter of 300 years, Christianity had converted as much as 10% of the Roman Empire and had expanded well into India and was making its way into China without the help of conquering armies and imperial decrees.
What happened when Constantine made it the official religion, it stifled the growth of Christianity, rather than bolstering it. Christianity became a cultural norm, and with that, came all the baggage of politics and coercion that get attached to it. Almost immediately, power players latched on to the faith and saw it as a way of political gain. This same pattern is observable all through history: look at the Church of England history, Colonial America, and other theocratic states that were set up. It is also true that people have used the name of Christ to conquer others, such as the episodes you mention above and the crusades to name a few. There are many dark chapters in the history of Christianity, but that doesn't make it all bad. And I’d say this is not at all the way Christ would have tried to expand the faith, but rather using the methods missionaries like the apostle Paul used.
Now I disagree with you on the basis of modern conversions. China is a prime example. Christianity is growing there at a rate never before seen in history. After Mao attempted to eradicate religion from China, he set up what would become the one of the most spiritually hungry places on earth. Nobody is making the Chinese come to Christ through coercion, and in fact the government goes through extreme measure to stop the spread of Christianity. Even at 3%, there are 36 million Christians in China, and that was 12 years ago. The Joshua Project estimates that there are about 96,600,000 Christians in China in 2006. In 1980, there were less than 1,000,000 Christians. That means 9600% growth has happened in 26 years. One cannot simply brush that under the rug.
Also, in southern Sudan, there are people coming to the Christian faith in droves too. I think this has a lot to do with their surroundings. Sudan is war torn by different factions of politics fighting. On the other hand though, there are Christian relief organizations attempting to help the Sudanese. If the alien faith is trying to bring peace, and you want peace, then you would embrace the alien faith that brings peace. The Sudanese Christians are still persecuted and still impoverished, but their conversions aren’t a result of bribes as you propose. It may be true that there are some people who bribe people into accepting their faith, but I don't think that represents the majority or even a significant portion of conversions.
Reply:When you read English history it is full of stories of people having their heads hacked off or being burnt at the stake for either because they were catholic and there was protestant on the throne, or you were protestant and there was a catholic on the throne. (The Tudors are a classic example,The Catholic queen " Bloody" Mary really lived up to her name )But woe betide you if you said you were a non-believer in those times too. How tragic that all those people died because of mindless superstition.
Reply:First of all you don't know History, Christ was crucified in 32 AD. Secondly there is a huge difference in Catholics and those who have traditionally followed Christ. Jesus never counseled His followers to be warlike. In one instance when they asked Him if they should command fire to come down from Heaven and devour their adversaries, He responded "I came to kill and destroy but to save". Those of us in the small remnant who follow His word, do not kill. We have never done so, there was always just a remnant of true Christians and then the others like Constantine who blended many pagan traditions with a misture of the words of Christ and called themselves Christians. Don't be fooled. I honestly don't blame you all for thinking such things, but we real Christians are just a small, small group.
Reply:I do not see that you asked a question that anyone can answer. All you have done is given us a history lesson, coupled with a lesson on comparative religion. Ask a question, get an answer.
Reply:very sad history and true - and still the Christians want to condem us Pagans!
It's 1846. You are heading west, what will you take?
It's 1846. You are heading West for whatever reason.
Your Conestoga Wagon is one of the smaller farm type. It's only about three to four feet wide, about seven to eight feet long, and can carry about twenty-five hundred pounds (about the size of a standard Chevy pick'up).
You have a family of four, mom, dad, and two small kids.
What will you bring?
Food/Water/Cooking Equipment?
Protection from Indians or other westwards (weaponry)? Possessions/Clothes? Tools/Medicine/Blankets? Extra Wheels? A Pig?
Remember to take total weight into consideration. (max 25 hundred pounds.) (not including people)
Best list gets best answer-
and my endless gratitude for the help!
It's 1846. You are heading west, what will you take?
I wouldn't take the wife and kids. I would leave them with family until I could make enough to support them in California.
If I HAVE to take them I would take food, water, soap, sanitary supplies ( you women had it NASTY back then), chickens for the eggs, fishing tackle and a rifle. We don't need the pig we can hunt for game and fish.
Reply:food, water, cooking equip
weapon(s) of some type
tools (minimum, poss to fix a broken spoke)
clothes - you have very little but you must layer
blankets - high value for their weight %26amp; can trade if nec.
-%26gt;forget the pig and take dried meat/ jerky (you don't have to feed it and it's not noisy %26amp; can't run away)
a small mirror (useful for the wife, HIGH trade value)
any high-value small possession such as gold or watch (not everyone has these)
tobacco if you have it - again, trade value
there is no such thing as medicine - not as we know it!
this is why i didn't go West in a covered wagon - never would have made it past the Missouri !
Reply:Mmmmm sounds like homework to me.
Tell us what you have in your list already and we'll agree or add - we won't do it for you.
Reply:maybe a slave or two
flower deliveries
Your Conestoga Wagon is one of the smaller farm type. It's only about three to four feet wide, about seven to eight feet long, and can carry about twenty-five hundred pounds (about the size of a standard Chevy pick'up).
You have a family of four, mom, dad, and two small kids.
What will you bring?
Food/Water/Cooking Equipment?
Protection from Indians or other westwards (weaponry)? Possessions/Clothes? Tools/Medicine/Blankets? Extra Wheels? A Pig?
Remember to take total weight into consideration. (max 25 hundred pounds.) (not including people)
Best list gets best answer-
and my endless gratitude for the help!
It's 1846. You are heading west, what will you take?
I wouldn't take the wife and kids. I would leave them with family until I could make enough to support them in California.
If I HAVE to take them I would take food, water, soap, sanitary supplies ( you women had it NASTY back then), chickens for the eggs, fishing tackle and a rifle. We don't need the pig we can hunt for game and fish.
Reply:food, water, cooking equip
weapon(s) of some type
tools (minimum, poss to fix a broken spoke)
clothes - you have very little but you must layer
blankets - high value for their weight %26amp; can trade if nec.
-%26gt;forget the pig and take dried meat/ jerky (you don't have to feed it and it's not noisy %26amp; can't run away)
a small mirror (useful for the wife, HIGH trade value)
any high-value small possession such as gold or watch (not everyone has these)
tobacco if you have it - again, trade value
there is no such thing as medicine - not as we know it!
this is why i didn't go West in a covered wagon - never would have made it past the Missouri !
Reply:Mmmmm sounds like homework to me.
Tell us what you have in your list already and we'll agree or add - we won't do it for you.
Reply:maybe a slave or two
flower deliveries
Few Questions to Christians?
1)Were Adam and Eve Black,White,Chinese,Hispanic or Multiracial.
2)Human Bones found 20000 years ago Show that our Teeth were Twice as bigger then as they are now our Jawline was bigger and a little Different and our Little finger on our hands and legs were longer then they are now.(the Bones have been conclusively proved to be Human not Apes) What do you have to say?
3)Will the Red Indians in America Who were killed by Chorela Blankets under Order of the Church, and many of their Tribes who were Massacered go to Hell.
4)Will the Victims of the A Bombs in Japan go to Hell whereas the Victims of Nepalm Bombing in Dresden(Germany) will go to Heaven.
5)Will your God cast out more than 4 Billion people in Hell without seeing whether they have been Good or Bad in their life, but ontheir Religious belief.
6)And Do you really think that the present Culture of Western World in Any way sets an Example of Christian Values for other christian Adherents anywhere. Atleast Practice what you preach
Few Questions to Christians?
1) black
2) That's a hoax. Charles Darwin was the antichrist.
3) Yes, they'll all go to Hell for not giving money to the church.
4) They'll all go to Hell if they didn't give money to the church.
5) Yes, because He is righteous, and 4 billion people are not.
6) No, we need to take over the government, kill all the Pagans, Muslims, Jews, and Catholics, and anyone else who can't give the church at least $50,000.
[/sarcasm]
Reply:All of this is my personal opinion
1)Were Adam and Eve Black,White,Chinese,Hispanic or Multiracial.
Honestly, I think they might have been a bit on the brown side. Eden is rumored to have been near the Euphrates, and no white man came from that area.
2)Human Bones found 20000 years ago Show that our Teeth were Twice as bigger then as they are now our Jawline was bigger and a little Different and our Little finger on our hands and legs were longer then they are now.(the Bones have been conclusively proved to be Human not Apes) What do you have to say?
Haven't heard that and, frankly, it doesn't change my view of the world.
3)Will the Red Indians in America Who were killed by Chorela Blankets under Order of the Church, and many of their Tribes who were Massacered go to Hell.
Don't think so.
4)Will the Victims of the A Bombs in Japan go to Hell whereas the Victims of Nepalm Bombing in Dresden(Germany) will go to Heaven.
Don't think so.
5)Will your God cast out more than 4 Billion people in Hell without seeing whether they have been Good or Bad in their life, but ontheir Religious belief.
Don't think so. To answer the three questions like this, I believe that God also looks at how we lived our lives and, when we die, we are filled with the truth. If someone does not have the opertunity to accept Jesus and God in life, then why would God punish that person? He's more forgiving then that.
6)And Do you really think that the present Culture of Western World in Any way sets an Example of Christian Values for other christian Adherents anywhere. Atleast Practice what you preach
A bit lost on that one. I think that it's important to lead by example. Live the life that Jesus did, and all will see us for the good we do. There will always be bad apples, but I can only hope that the good ones out weigh them.
Reply:Ask your god.
Reply:If your questions are answered, I'd be curious what exactly would change in your life. Your questions lack revelance.
Reply:1. The Bible does not say but in reality, we're all descendants of Noah and his family. They were racially diverse.
2. You have no credible evidence for the accuracy of the date nor DNA to prove they were from humans. Remember, there are mutations in all species so don't fret over it.
3. I don't know but their murderers might go to hell if they weren't forgiven.
4. Only God knows who will go to heaven or hell. It is not for man to know whom.
5. That is a question for God, not men. Have you asked Him?
6. Christ is the standard to live by. Not any men.
Reply:1. Why does it matter what "race" they were?
2. No one claimed that God didn't create us using evolution.
3. Only God judges, we don't know.
4. See answer #3.
5. God sees if we're good or evil every second of every day. By the time we die, He knows. The overwhelming majority of us, Christians included, won't be found "good" by God's standards. That's why we need a relationship with Him and His Grace.
6. Most Christians will agree, the Western world can claim to be Christian all it wants to, it's actions don't match it's claims. We can only do our best individually to follow Jesus. Our governments are falling short would be a poor excuse to ignore our Savior.
Reply:to many questions, ask yourself, in prayer
Reply:I am a christian who believe that the creation of Adam and Eve was a special creation that would bring the Christ into the world. I can not justify the evidence of the natural world with just what story we are given in the Bible, though I believe what the Bible teaches is the truth. The Bible is not a history book nor a book of science. It is a book of faith. Just because the Bible doesn't tell the full story of creation doesn't mean the outline doesn't contain the truth. I know it took multi millions of years for the earth to become what it is. This at one time put me in a hard place. But why couldn't or wouldn' t God prepare the world for His children with natural creation. Seems logical to me that there was a lot more going on than God explained to men. Moses had very limited knowledge and very limited ability to understand all that God had done so the outline Moses was given is limited. As far as your question on salvation. The bible teaches that is comes thru faith in Jesus Christ, and by His grace. No respecter of person if any of your example met this qualification they are saved. If they refuse then they are not. I think the message I have just told you in REFUSE. It looks as though, so far anyway, you refuse. Will God know who would have excepted Him is told YES.. God be the judge here. Present Western Culture and for that matter past Western behavior is not Christian and has nothing to do with Christ or those who believe on Him. True political christian as often right wing republicans. Still politics has nothing to do with faith. They are separate thing and most Western nations want it that way. If you don't most Islamic nations had no such ideas maybe you would be happier there.... Jim
Reply:AMEN!!!!
u tell those christian dumbf*cks
Reply:1. It doesn't matter.
2. Carbon dating is flawed.
3. Anyone who dies without accepting Jesus as Lord and Savior will not get into Heaven.
4. Same answer as #3.
5. Anyone in hell will be cast into the Lake of Fire for all eternity.
6. Some does, most does not.
Reply:#1 Sun changes your skin color.
#2 How do you know they were 20,000 years old? Mutation happens, God is smart. Evolution doens't. My dad was not King Kong.
3-5 Only God can judge
#6 only God can tell me how to act, not religion.
www.notrelgion.com
2)Human Bones found 20000 years ago Show that our Teeth were Twice as bigger then as they are now our Jawline was bigger and a little Different and our Little finger on our hands and legs were longer then they are now.(the Bones have been conclusively proved to be Human not Apes) What do you have to say?
3)Will the Red Indians in America Who were killed by Chorela Blankets under Order of the Church, and many of their Tribes who were Massacered go to Hell.
4)Will the Victims of the A Bombs in Japan go to Hell whereas the Victims of Nepalm Bombing in Dresden(Germany) will go to Heaven.
5)Will your God cast out more than 4 Billion people in Hell without seeing whether they have been Good or Bad in their life, but ontheir Religious belief.
6)And Do you really think that the present Culture of Western World in Any way sets an Example of Christian Values for other christian Adherents anywhere. Atleast Practice what you preach
Few Questions to Christians?
1) black
2) That's a hoax. Charles Darwin was the antichrist.
3) Yes, they'll all go to Hell for not giving money to the church.
4) They'll all go to Hell if they didn't give money to the church.
5) Yes, because He is righteous, and 4 billion people are not.
6) No, we need to take over the government, kill all the Pagans, Muslims, Jews, and Catholics, and anyone else who can't give the church at least $50,000.
[/sarcasm]
Reply:All of this is my personal opinion
1)Were Adam and Eve Black,White,Chinese,Hispanic or Multiracial.
Honestly, I think they might have been a bit on the brown side. Eden is rumored to have been near the Euphrates, and no white man came from that area.
2)Human Bones found 20000 years ago Show that our Teeth were Twice as bigger then as they are now our Jawline was bigger and a little Different and our Little finger on our hands and legs were longer then they are now.(the Bones have been conclusively proved to be Human not Apes) What do you have to say?
Haven't heard that and, frankly, it doesn't change my view of the world.
3)Will the Red Indians in America Who were killed by Chorela Blankets under Order of the Church, and many of their Tribes who were Massacered go to Hell.
Don't think so.
4)Will the Victims of the A Bombs in Japan go to Hell whereas the Victims of Nepalm Bombing in Dresden(Germany) will go to Heaven.
Don't think so.
5)Will your God cast out more than 4 Billion people in Hell without seeing whether they have been Good or Bad in their life, but ontheir Religious belief.
Don't think so. To answer the three questions like this, I believe that God also looks at how we lived our lives and, when we die, we are filled with the truth. If someone does not have the opertunity to accept Jesus and God in life, then why would God punish that person? He's more forgiving then that.
6)And Do you really think that the present Culture of Western World in Any way sets an Example of Christian Values for other christian Adherents anywhere. Atleast Practice what you preach
A bit lost on that one. I think that it's important to lead by example. Live the life that Jesus did, and all will see us for the good we do. There will always be bad apples, but I can only hope that the good ones out weigh them.
Reply:Ask your god.
Reply:If your questions are answered, I'd be curious what exactly would change in your life. Your questions lack revelance.
Reply:1. The Bible does not say but in reality, we're all descendants of Noah and his family. They were racially diverse.
2. You have no credible evidence for the accuracy of the date nor DNA to prove they were from humans. Remember, there are mutations in all species so don't fret over it.
3. I don't know but their murderers might go to hell if they weren't forgiven.
4. Only God knows who will go to heaven or hell. It is not for man to know whom.
5. That is a question for God, not men. Have you asked Him?
6. Christ is the standard to live by. Not any men.
Reply:1. Why does it matter what "race" they were?
2. No one claimed that God didn't create us using evolution.
3. Only God judges, we don't know.
4. See answer #3.
5. God sees if we're good or evil every second of every day. By the time we die, He knows. The overwhelming majority of us, Christians included, won't be found "good" by God's standards. That's why we need a relationship with Him and His Grace.
6. Most Christians will agree, the Western world can claim to be Christian all it wants to, it's actions don't match it's claims. We can only do our best individually to follow Jesus. Our governments are falling short would be a poor excuse to ignore our Savior.
Reply:to many questions, ask yourself, in prayer
Reply:I am a christian who believe that the creation of Adam and Eve was a special creation that would bring the Christ into the world. I can not justify the evidence of the natural world with just what story we are given in the Bible, though I believe what the Bible teaches is the truth. The Bible is not a history book nor a book of science. It is a book of faith. Just because the Bible doesn't tell the full story of creation doesn't mean the outline doesn't contain the truth. I know it took multi millions of years for the earth to become what it is. This at one time put me in a hard place. But why couldn't or wouldn' t God prepare the world for His children with natural creation. Seems logical to me that there was a lot more going on than God explained to men. Moses had very limited knowledge and very limited ability to understand all that God had done so the outline Moses was given is limited. As far as your question on salvation. The bible teaches that is comes thru faith in Jesus Christ, and by His grace. No respecter of person if any of your example met this qualification they are saved. If they refuse then they are not. I think the message I have just told you in REFUSE. It looks as though, so far anyway, you refuse. Will God know who would have excepted Him is told YES.. God be the judge here. Present Western Culture and for that matter past Western behavior is not Christian and has nothing to do with Christ or those who believe on Him. True political christian as often right wing republicans. Still politics has nothing to do with faith. They are separate thing and most Western nations want it that way. If you don't most Islamic nations had no such ideas maybe you would be happier there.... Jim
Reply:AMEN!!!!
u tell those christian dumbf*cks
Reply:1. It doesn't matter.
2. Carbon dating is flawed.
3. Anyone who dies without accepting Jesus as Lord and Savior will not get into Heaven.
4. Same answer as #3.
5. Anyone in hell will be cast into the Lake of Fire for all eternity.
6. Some does, most does not.
Reply:#1 Sun changes your skin color.
#2 How do you know they were 20,000 years old? Mutation happens, God is smart. Evolution doens't. My dad was not King Kong.
3-5 Only God can judge
#6 only God can tell me how to act, not religion.
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What are your thoughts about the Chemically infected FEMA trailers?
My thoughts come to this...The Federal Government wants Indian lands and as I have read it is time once again for ethnic cleansing!....this reminds me of when they supplied my ancestors with blankets from their dead to spread smallpox disease...now they want to give these Infected FEMA trailers to people on Pine Ridge....WTF?....Funny they were refused the trailers when FEMA's director said they had to be moved East in case they were needed.....in case of storm emergencies or winter...whoever heard of them bringing trailers after a blizzard?....It is said that once the news came out that Katrina Victims were getting sick due to formaldehyde(in the trailers) only than they wanted to send them to PINE RIDGE and other Nations...Don't they (government) know that ....Once again the Lakota are on the receiving end of sickness from the government because of the minerals in their land!.... will this ever end?
What are your thoughts about the Chemically infected FEMA trailers?
SEE. . and not too long ago ol blue eyes was complaining "how come the indians get em!?!?!?"
See this sh!t whitey, THIS is STILL going on. The WAR isn't over, and it WONT be over until they feel they killed us ALL.
WHAT they WONT understand is the word DEFECTIVE.
That's ALL they govt EVER 'gave' us. From housing all the way down to food.
Sure the sheep WILL make up excuses, they HAVE to. It's the ONLY way they can sleep at night.
As for 'AID' they're perfectly willing to turn a blind eye to the BILLIONS going OUT of this country, but heaven forbid they help US out. . . . and they wonder why we don't TRUST them.
we WANTED reservations?!?! ROFLMAO
JESUS Freakin Christ!!!
are you REALLY that DENSE???
wanted reservations. . . SOMEBODY PLEASE SCHOOL THIS MORON!!!
Reply:A chemical can not infect anything only a living organism. A chemical can permeate something and make it dangerous but infection is a product of a live organism.
Reply:The point of your 'question' is to lambaste the government. Formaldehyde is in all new carpets. I have lived in a new trailer, and the fumes are sickening if the trailer is kept tightly closed. Even new carpet installed in regular homes is chemically loaded. That's how it's manufactured. Better venting and exchanges of fresh air with locked in trailer air will prevent illness from any fumes from new materials inside.
As for the Lakota, and other Indian victimizations you refer to, I don't believe the government did such things, whatever did happen was by individuals with evil and hate in their heart and mind. There's a lot of that going around.
The Indians wanted their own reservations, yet they still want the government to help. There's a big world out there, get out and enjoy it.
My husband's mother was a Blackfoot, so I'm not against Indians. Try to rid your heart of bitterness and let the sun and love of God shine in. May God bless you.
Reply:Simple fix vent the trailers.
Reply:FEMA is as incompetent as that other idiot they had running Katrina, "Browny".... and they fired "browny" after Bush told him "Great Job"..It wasn't great, it's tragic and those people should file suit against the Government but OH Yes.Bush says we can't do that either now any more, ever since 9/11....So those poor people will have to go after the manufacturer themselves and get no where. This is tragic, it's children for Gods sake! It will end when we the people get off our collective butts and vote Congress out, all of them, until they listen and take care of WE THE PEOPLE, instead of big corp America...their benefactors..who pay them off to not change this stuff. Shame on them for doing this to those people, and the babies,. my heart aches for them..
WE need to impeach this man who assumes he is King..before he causes us more shame and trouble and death..
Reply:it amazes me how people can be consciously evil. This is why I am a religious man. There has to be a God because as your story proves there is a Devil. Awful and astonishing.
What are your thoughts about the Chemically infected FEMA trailers?
SEE. . and not too long ago ol blue eyes was complaining "how come the indians get em!?!?!?"
See this sh!t whitey, THIS is STILL going on. The WAR isn't over, and it WONT be over until they feel they killed us ALL.
WHAT they WONT understand is the word DEFECTIVE.
That's ALL they govt EVER 'gave' us. From housing all the way down to food.
Sure the sheep WILL make up excuses, they HAVE to. It's the ONLY way they can sleep at night.
As for 'AID' they're perfectly willing to turn a blind eye to the BILLIONS going OUT of this country, but heaven forbid they help US out. . . . and they wonder why we don't TRUST them.
we WANTED reservations?!?! ROFLMAO
JESUS Freakin Christ!!!
are you REALLY that DENSE???
wanted reservations. . . SOMEBODY PLEASE SCHOOL THIS MORON!!!
Reply:A chemical can not infect anything only a living organism. A chemical can permeate something and make it dangerous but infection is a product of a live organism.
Reply:The point of your 'question' is to lambaste the government. Formaldehyde is in all new carpets. I have lived in a new trailer, and the fumes are sickening if the trailer is kept tightly closed. Even new carpet installed in regular homes is chemically loaded. That's how it's manufactured. Better venting and exchanges of fresh air with locked in trailer air will prevent illness from any fumes from new materials inside.
As for the Lakota, and other Indian victimizations you refer to, I don't believe the government did such things, whatever did happen was by individuals with evil and hate in their heart and mind. There's a lot of that going around.
The Indians wanted their own reservations, yet they still want the government to help. There's a big world out there, get out and enjoy it.
My husband's mother was a Blackfoot, so I'm not against Indians. Try to rid your heart of bitterness and let the sun and love of God shine in. May God bless you.
Reply:Simple fix vent the trailers.
Reply:FEMA is as incompetent as that other idiot they had running Katrina, "Browny".... and they fired "browny" after Bush told him "Great Job"..It wasn't great, it's tragic and those people should file suit against the Government but OH Yes.Bush says we can't do that either now any more, ever since 9/11....So those poor people will have to go after the manufacturer themselves and get no where. This is tragic, it's children for Gods sake! It will end when we the people get off our collective butts and vote Congress out, all of them, until they listen and take care of WE THE PEOPLE, instead of big corp America...their benefactors..who pay them off to not change this stuff. Shame on them for doing this to those people, and the babies,. my heart aches for them..
WE need to impeach this man who assumes he is King..before he causes us more shame and trouble and death..
Reply:it amazes me how people can be consciously evil. This is why I am a religious man. There has to be a God because as your story proves there is a Devil. Awful and astonishing.
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